Ebay and the scam of the buyer protection program.

4 January, 2008 at 2:31 pm (Various)

I’ve been always a big ebay fan, i buy alot of things there, since the prices are interesting and its very convenient. However recently i incurred in far too many problems, that made me rethink of my ebay businesses.
Let’s start from the beginning, i already have around 100 successful businesses on ebay, only 1 or 2 times the things went wrong, but that was for a limited amount of money.
Lately i found myself in need of a new digital camera, so i started hunting on ebay.
I won a nice auction in germany, for a minolta A1, the seller was very friendly, and i paid him in full by bank transfer.
Then troubles started, i never got the parcel, and the seller was unable to provide proof of shipping…
He told me would refund me in full, which he did, but by sending an international transfer ON my account, the result was that i had to pay 35€ in order to get my money back.
I contacted ebay and they told me i am not insured because i paid by bank transfer (even if on the website says that is not deprecated).
In any case, in order to start the insurance procedure, i had to pay 25€ so it was already almost the same…
This planted the seed in my mind, was Ebay buyer protection really a scam?

Then it happened, i saw a nice camera in France, and i bought it, paid the seller by PAYPAL, in order to be TOTALLY insured, and the seller shipped me, rather in delay but shipped.
I got a nice parcel with a camera that had fallen into a beach…yes, it was full of sand, and everyone knows how bad is sand for a camera…
I cleaned it very good, in order to find that…it was not working…
It did turn on, but no images were shown on the visor..
oh cool, i got ripped off again..
I contacted the seller, which answered me when he shipped the camera it was working, and no, he didn’t go to a beach.
Even if i found plenty of beach pictures in the camera, the camera may have stopped itself on a beach on its way to me, that’s why it took so long.
I contated ebay, they said they can’t help, since i paid with paypal i should claim them, which i did..
Paypal said i was not ELIGIBLE for buyer protection program, because i didn’t buy FROM the site i was registered from (more or less an excuse of the same kind of you are not insured because your parcel was yellow)..
But they could open a claim, and IF after 8 days the seller has not decided what to do, they would refund me WHAT they can get back from the seller (read this as follow: i seller get an email that a claim has been opened, i have 8 days time to empty my paypal account so they get nothing).
COOL i’ve never seen anything like that really, if this is not a SCAM i don’t know what it really.

In case the seller has 0 balance on its account they will give me 0, in case he has something they will give me what they can…and where is the insurance, sorry me for my blindness, you get back money from seller and give me, i don’t see where is the insurance.

In case the seller AGREES to pays me the full balance back, minus shipping expenses of course, because they can’t be “insured”, i would have to SHIP back the camera to him by trackable mail and on my CHARGE…

So i get ripped off 2 times, by a fraud seller and by Ebay..

How nice they are really, caring about the customers, and really honest and polite…
But the funniest thing is this, in case the seller CLAIMS the camera was working perfectly, paypal would ASK ME to find an expert, to get a paper saying why, when, and how the camera was broken, and PAY HIM IN FULL MYSELF.
Then they will force a refund 😀 so i spend 1000 in order to get back 100..

SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM
this is what is this buyer protection program
SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM

Ebay doesn’t care about the customers, they care only about fees, they just want your money, remember this, there is no protection of any kind for the customer, no matter what, everything they say is just SCAM

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28 Comments

  1. luigi said,

    That’s really frightening. My long standing doubts about eBay, PayPal & co, are now gone… I won’t NEVER BUY ANYTHING on eBay priced more than a few €!

  2. roxville said,

    Stuff like this scares me… and makes me glad I never try to actually BUY things on ebay!

  3. assasukasse said,

    That’s for sure that from now my ebay businesses will be limited to 20-30$ maximum..

  4. Thanatermesis said,

    “Ebay doesn’t care about the customers”…

    Paypal = Ebay, so, both sucks

  5. adan said,

    Absolutely true!
    I have had also some experiences with ebay and the safety and trust team just send me emails from a standard template. At the end, I got annoyed and said them not to sned me more standard answers but to answer my questions and they send me the address of their solicitors, saying that if I had more doubts, I should contact them.

  6. Joe Blow said,

    EBAY **** ***** ****!!!

    no profanity please

  7. LeRoi said,

    I would agree that the protection plan is fairly worthless. On one item
    i bought, they guy never shipped it. Opened an ebay investigation and they
    said “sorry, but that user no longer has an account. ”

    Anyway, I have found that there are other things to try. In the US, enter
    a online fraud report. I don’t have the address right now, but google
    it and you should come to a .gov site. They will file a police report in
    the town where the guy is located. That seems to get them motivated:-)

    Also, my paypal is linked to my credit card. Despite all of the bad stuff
    you hear about credit cards, I find it really safe……just call your credit card
    company and tell them you did not get it or did not receive what was promised.
    Their flow is
    step one: here is your money back
    step two: now we start an investigation.
    It did not take much documentation, but I always got my money back.

  8. Paul said,

    So,… this would be the same kind of e-bay fraud:

    From: . . [mailto:********]
    Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:02 PM
    Subject: 2000 Honda Accord EX

    Hello and sorry for my delay,
    I`m ******** The 2000 Honda Accord EX is in perfect working condition.This vehicle engine runs very, very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty.This detailed vehicle makes the exterior look like it just came off the assembly line.The car has only 107699 highway miles.VIN Number: ********
    Options
    CD Player Leather Seats Sunroof Anti-Lock Brakes
    Driver Airbag Passenger Airbag Side Airbags Air Conditioning
    Cruise Control Power Locks Power Windows Power Seats
    *******
    (if the above link does not work copy and paste it into a new web browser window)
    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 10 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected.

    LOL 🙂

    Anyway i am sure that if you will don`t be satisfied about the car i will surely find another buyer in your area and there will be no need for you to ship the car back. I am located in Zagreb,Croatia and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between USA and Croatia. One months ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My final price on it is US 2,900 $. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me anything.

    OF COURSE THE MILITARY SPEND A FEW THOUSANDS DOLLARS TO SHIP A CAR BY MILITARY CARGO 😀 WHICH DREAM IS THAT?

    You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. You will receive the car in about 3 days. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.

    BAH…WORSE THAN THE NIGERIAN SCAMMERS..

  9. Eduardo said,

    Hey Paul
    Thanks for posting that email…2 hours ago I got an identical email…
    take a look

    “Hello,
    I`m Sgt. *************. You have to know that the 2003 Honda Civic 4 Cyl I am selling is 100% working and great looking, no flaws or dents, no scratches or any kind of damage. The title is clear. It has 40,200 miles. The VIN# is ***********. This vehicle engine runs very, very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty. This detailed vehicle makes the exterior looks like it just came off the assembly line.
    Features & Options
    Ext / Int Color
    Burgundy with Tan Cloth Interior
    Luxury Features Air Conditioning Cruise Control Sunroof Power Equipment Power Steering Power Windows Power Locks

    Here are the pics of the car :
    ************************************
    (if the above link does not work copy and paste it into a new web browser window)

    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and inspect it (for 10 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. Anyway i am sure that if you won`t be satisfied with the car i will surely find another buyer in your area and there will be no need for you to ship the car back.
    I am located in Zagreb,Croatia and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between our country and Croatia. One month ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States because In order to be able to register this car here, I would have to pay very high import/custom taxes. My final price on it is $ 2850. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me anything. You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. You will receive the car in about 4 days. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
    Thank you, and have a nice day,
    Sgt. ************”

    Everybody, please do not believe in this kind of deals..last month I was almost involved in a scam when trying to sublet my apartment…so be aware of long emails explaning the whole life of a person or pretty strange deals ….if it smells fishy take care.
    Best for all

    Eduardo

  10. Simon said,

    It seems like this has also been done on CraigsList because I was looking for a Jeep and this is the email I received.

    Hi,

    I`m Sgt. James cole.The 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. is in perfect working condition. This detailed vehicle makes the exterior look like it just came off the assembly line. The car has only 126379 original miles. VIN Number: 1J4GW58N6YC316730
    It was never involved in any accident, not even minor ones. The body and paint are great. The interior is super clean, no engine problems, it runs like a cat on carpet.
    Options
    POWER WINDOWS, CRUISE CONTROL, LEATHER, POWER DOOR LOCKS, Power Driver’s Seat, AUTO CLIMATE CONTROL, POWER MIRRORS, Sunroof, Power Steering, ABS,RADIO CD, AIR BAG, Engine 4.7L V8 MPI, Keyless Entry and many other features.
    PICS: http://s294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/mdmazzacane/Jeep%20Grand%20Cherokee/

    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program because it’s the safest way for both of us. The deal will go strictly according to eBay rules and policy. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 10 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. Anyway i am sure that if you won’t be 100% satisfied with the car i will find another buyer in your area and there will be no need for you to ship the car back. I am located in Zagreb,Croatia and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between USA and Croatia. One months ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take forever. My final price is $3,600. If you agree with this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Military Air Cargo so it will not cost me anything. It will be sent to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. From the moment the payment is secured by eBay the shipping process will begin and the car will arrive at your address in about 3 or max. 4 business day.
    If this is OK with you please reply with your complete name and shipping address so I can start the official procedure for this transaction.

    Thank you and have a great day,

    Glad I found the same mo and didnt fall for this silly obvious scam.

  11. Dan said,

    I got the same message. Funny thing is, I work for DoD and the scammer sent the mail to my .mil address! Please file a complaint with ic3 (http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx) if you get this message.

  12. C0D3Y said,

    Hello and sorry for my delay,
    I’m SGT Andrew Perry. This Camry is in perfect working condition. This vehicle engine runs very, very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty. This detailed vehicle makes the exterior looks like it just came off the assembly line. The car has 76k miles. VIN Number: 4T1BE32K32U540203
    CD Player Anti-Lock Brakes Driver Airbag Passenger Airbag
    Side Airbags Air Conditioning Cruise Control Power Locks
    Power Windows Power Seats
    Here are the pics of the car:
    http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn37/m31h41/

    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 10 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. Anyway i am sure that if you will don`t be satisfied about the car i will surely find another buyer in your area and there will be no need for you to ship the car back. I am located in London, United Kingdom and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between USA and UK. One month ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My final price on it is $2,950. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me anything. You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. You will receive the car in about 3 days. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
    Best Regards,
    Andrew and Sarah Perry

  13. C0D3Y said,

    thats the email i got while looking through craigs list =) gladly i did some research and found that this was a scam

  14. Jillian Hind said,

    Hello,
    My name is CONFIDENTIAL and and I’m glad to see your interest in purchasing my car (2006 LEXUS IS250 – SUNROOF -Miles: 42250 – Engine: 2.5L V6 DOHC 24V – Automatic ). It hasn’t been involved in any accident or anything of this type.
    What can I tell you in a few words is that I am an individual seller, I am not a dealer and this is my first type of auction on Craigslist. The car that I have for selling is mine , it is personal property and I am going to sell it because I was promoted to my work and in the same time they gave me a new car for work and moving for my needs. In conclusion, I don’t need two good cars for the moment and I decided, after a discussion with my wife (sometimes is very difficult to be persuasive, you know what I mean) about selling my car, because it is sensles to keep the car only to occupy the garage.In the above I told you I was promoted at work (extraordinary thing) but I had to move with my family in another location (we must do sacrifices all the time) and now I live in Edmonton ,Canada .
    My final price on it is US $ 5600 .As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’sBuyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected.You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it ( for 15 days ) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. I know you need a bill of sale and the original title and it will be no problem, once you receive the car, you will receive them as well so you can register the car on your name.You will have along with the papers that you need for the registration a bill on your name with the price and short description to confirm that you have already bought the car.
    Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your FULL NAME and FULL ADDRESS where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.

    Best Regards.
    CONFIDENTIAL

    DOESNT THIS SOUND SOMEWHAT LIKE THE OTHER POST. I DECLARE SHENANNIGAINS!

  15. Harold said,

    When I look for a car on craigslist, I find two attractive cars. So I contact with them, and I get two such similar e-mails.

    Hello,
    I`m Sgt. Javier Resnik. You have to know that the 2003 Honda Accord 6 – Cyl Automatic I am selling is 100% working and great looking, no flaws or dents, no scratches or any kind of damage. The title is clear. It has 46749 miles. The VIN# is 1hgcm66803a050494. This vehicle engine runs very, very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty. This detailed vehicle makes the exterior looks like it just came off the assembly line.
    Options
    Sunroof Leather Seats CD Player Anti-Lock Brakes
    Driver Airbag Passenger Airbag Side Airbags Air Conditioning
    Cruise Control Power Locks Power Windows Power Seats
    PICS: http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/2003hoaccve/

    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and inspect it (for 10 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. Anyway i am sure that if you won`t be satisfied with the car i will surely find another buyer in your area and there will be no need for you to ship the car back.
    I am located in Zagreb,Croatia and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between our country and Croatia. One month ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States because In order to be able to register this car here, I would have to pay very high import/custom taxes. My final price on it is $ 2950. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me anything. You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. You will receive the car in about 4 days. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
    Thank you, and have a nice day,
    Sgt. Javier Resnik

    *********************

    Hello,

    First of all I want to thank you for your interest for my car. I sell at this price($6400) because i just finished the divorce with my husband. The divorce is finished and I own this car. Now as a women i don’t need it because I need money for other things. This car is in excellent working conditions, no scratches, flaws or any kind of damage, slightly used in 100% working and looking conditions and comes with a clear title.From the beginning you have to know that for the payment I request only secure pay, I prefer the payment to be done using eBay services. As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for me and you to be 100% protected.The final price that I want for this car is $6400. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping.Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.

    Pics : http://s402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/bmwrtr/

    Best Regards,

    Hellena Usher

    Thank all the person posting comments here
    Good luck to all

  16. malkani said,

    email one

    taylerarmysmith@aol.com

    Hello,
    The bike (2007 Yamaha YZF-R6) is in absolutely perfect condition, no scratches,dings, dents or other imperfections. Never accidented, Always garaged. Clear title, no leans. I will accept $3,800 if you buy it now. It has only 1036 miles, 600 cc, and also 6 months of Yamaha waranty…transferable. The bike will come with the helmet, a pair of gloves and the jacket also.

    Firstly, I need to tell you that i am located in Anchorage, Alaska. I sell the bike urgently because my platoon has been sent back to Iraq and don’t want it to get old in my garage. The price is low because I need to sell it before sept 30th…I will take care of all transport arrangements.
    Usually shipment takes maximum 3 to 5 days depending on your location and will be fully insured against damages, shipped in a crated container…..on my cost!!
    I am a member of the eBay buyer protection program and using this service you will get a 5 days testing period after delivery. During that 5 days testing period I will not be getting any money.
    If you agree with my above terms, I’m sure that we can close the deal as soon as possible.
    I have reserved the bike for you until I will have your final answer.
    Reply soon,
    Tyler

    email no 2 when i ask for 3500 from 3800

    As you can read in my first email, I’ll cover the shipping fees.
    The Shipping company will shipp the bike at your home address.

    In order to notify eBay I will need buyer’s full name, phone # and shipping address so I can open a transaction case and they will contact you for further details and instructions. I want a safe deal and I want to end this transaction with eBay’s buyer protection program .

    How it works:
    You make the payment to eBay safe account.
    After they check the payment they announce me to start the shipping.
    After you will receive the product and see that is ok, you have
    to announce them that you have it. Only then, they will send me the money.
    If you are not satisfied with it, I will have it shipped back to me on my cost and you will get 100% refund from eBay.

    Hope to hear from you soon…

    PS: helmet and kacket are XL size, and…I will accept 3500

    now i am waiting for his third email

  17. ashle said,

    This is pretty comical. I am glad I came across this stuff today. I was about to fall for the scam of the military car. I received the same type of e-mail and when I told them I am not so sure about this, they still e-mail me. I do have a relative where the car is supposedly located and asked if they could inspect it for me. I am currently waited for their reply.

    Is there anywhere we can turn these people in? I wonder how many people have fallen for this scam.

  18. brad said,

    Hello, I’m Sgt. David Herbert.
    This Lexus is in perfect working condition. This vehicle engine runs very very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty. This detailed vehicle makes the exterior looks like it just came off the assembly line. The car has 19,889 miles on it.
    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 15 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. I am located in Lisboa, Portugal and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between US and Portugal. One month ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the US because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My price on it is US 7,000 $.
    If we reach an agreement, I am willing to take care of the shipping to your address. Shipping will take 10 days max. I have managed to obtain a low cost shipping, only $600 and I presume it would be fair to split the shipping cost so, we’ll pay $300 each. Meaning, that the car and the shipping/handling will cost you $7,300. I think this is reasonable.
    Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.

    Regards
    David Herbert

    thanks for all the posts on here… as soon as i got this email back i knew something was fishy about it… a brand new lexus for 7k dollars…. lol right…. its true what they say if it sounds to good to be true it probably is.

  19. Lima Pitt said,

    Good day to all,

    I got a simlar email… I guess when it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
    The trick is to get as much information as possible and doing a little research pays off.

    Hello,
    >
    > The shipping and handling taxes are included in the price $6400 CAD.
    > The car is already at the shipping company in Edmonton sealed and ready for the shipping. I have a contract with eBay so this deal must go through them. I’m very busy with my job and I’m left out of the town so I can’t meet in person with you so this is the reason why I chose to sell my car over the internet. According to eBay you have 5 days from the time you receive the car to inspect it and decide if you want to keep it or not.
    > Here is how it will work:
    > 1.First of all I will need the following details from you:
    > – Full Name
    > – Full Shipping Address
    > – Working Phone#
    > 2. After I will receive the details from you, I will forward them to eBay.
    > 3. After they will process your info, they will send us both invoices. The invoice will send you the details on how to make a refundable payment.
    > 4. eBay will contact me and I will ship the car to you. After you receive the car you will have 5 days to test, verify and do whatever you need to the car. If you will buy, then I will receive the payment details from eBay so that I can pick up the money.
    > 5. If you will decide that you will not buy the car, eBay will refund the money and I will have the shipping company come pick up my car. If you wish to make the transaction, please send me the necessary info so that we can proceed. Let me explain you why I can’t make a phone conversation right now.I’ve suffered an ears surgery last month and I am making a treatment with liquid solutions witch makes my life impossible. I even can’t listen music in my car, or house, all people whisper to me and I must continue in this way few months now long. Imagine, I would prefer to give a call and set up all the details instead writing e-mails, but I don’t have other alternative.
    > If you have any questions please email me and I will answer you asap.
    > I look forward to hear from you.
    > Thank you,
    > Linda

  20. naughtychild said,

    What the fuck!!!!!
    I got the same Email and i am almost about to pay for it but i wanted to know abt ebay’s protection plan and i saw these answers.
    Thanks friends for posting them here…..

    I am pasting whole email that i got at first
    Hello and sorry for my delay,
    I’m sgt Dawn Knight. The 2005 Honda Civic LX 4 Cyl is in perfect working condition.This vehicle engine runs very, very smooth.This detailed vehicle makes the Hello and sorry for my delay,
    I’m sgt Dawn Knight. The 2005 Honda Civic LX 4 Cyl is in perfect working condition.This vehicle engine runs very, very smooth.This detailed vehicle makes the exterior look like it just came off the assembly line.The car has only 49,829 miles.VIN ………………………………….
    Options
    Power Exterior Mirrors
    Cruise Control Power Windows Tachometer Center Console

    Here are the pics of the car :
    http://s431.photobucket.com/…………………………………..
    (if the above link does not work copy and paste it into a new web browser window)
    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 10 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. Anyway i am sure that if you will don`t be satisfied about the car i will surely find another buyer in your area and there will be no need for you to ship the car back.
    I am located in London,United Kingdom and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between USA and UK . One months ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My final price on it is US 2,990 $. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me anything. You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. You will receive the car in about 3 days. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
    Thank you and have a great day,
    Sgt Dawn Knight
    Options
    Power Exterior Mirrors
    Cruise Control Power Windows Tachometer Center Console

    Here are the pics of the car :
    http://s431.photobucket.com/albums/qq35/2005hcivcc/
    (if the above link does not work copy and paste it into a new web browser window)
    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 10 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. Anyway i am sure that if you will don`t be satisfied about the car i will surely find another buyer in your area and there will be no need for you to ship the car back.
    I am located in London,United Kingdom and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between USA and UK . One months ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My final price on it is US 2,990 $. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me anything. You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. You will receive the car in about 3 days. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
    Thank you and have a great day,
    Sgt Dawn Knight

    I CHECKED THE VIN NUMBER IN EBAY AND FOUND IT HAS BEEN ON SALE BY THE DIFFERENT SELLER. THANK GOD I AM SAVED I WAS ALMOST PAYING THAT.
    THE LAST 5 MINUTES SAVED ME.

  21. Nicole said,

    just had the same problem. almost bought it decided to look up ebay buyer protetion program and saw this.
    i was looking for a camry and a sgt from bosnia anwsered me.

    thank you

  22. marj said,

    I got the same exact response when I found a laptop that I liked on craigslist. Damn these folks. Thank you for this posting otherwise I would’ve been scammed! here’s the email below.

    Hey ,

    The product is in great condition and runs great , no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs , it is like new and still under warranty .The reason I am selling it , is because I am in the military and my unit will be sent back to Iraq for a mission that will take 6 months and I don’t want to keep it .I am selling it so low because I need to sell it before October 24st.
    I already have tons of emails so I hope you understand that I need to sort them out and I hope you won’t make me loose time as it has already happened to me. If you will decide to buy it I am willing to pay for the shipping costs .If you are still interested e-mail me back .

    Regards!

    Hy,

    I am in a military base now. We are training, getting ready for Iraq. I am only allowed to check my email twice a day. I hope you can understand that we will have to stick to email for now. I will handle the shipping. I will ship it with UPS. I will take care of the shipping charges, like I said in my first email. I think you can have it there in 3-5 working days. I am a member of the eBay buyer protection program and using this service you will get a 3 days testing period after delivery. During that 3 days testing period I will not be getting any money. I need to know if you are interested in buying it so I can ask eBay to send you the details on how this works. If interested please include in your next email your contact info for eBay (name, address and user eBay# and if you have an Messenger Id) so we can get things started.

    You can send me only your full name and eBay user ID .

    Thank You ,

    George Donat

  23. bas said,

    Date: Sun 5 Oct 13:26:04 EDT 2008
    From: Matt Simpson Add To Address Book | This is Spam
    Subject: Re: 2005 MINI Cooper
    To: xxxx xxxx>

    Hey,
    Thank for your reply.I will ship it with DAS. I think I can have it there in 5-7 working days. I will take care of the shipping charges as I told you in my first email. It will come with a clear title and reg. I am a member of the eBay buyer protection program and using this service you will get a 3 days testing period after delivery. During that 3 days testing period I will not be getting any money. I need to know if you are interested so I can ask eBay to send you the details on this deal. If interested please include in your next email your contact info for eBay (name, address and phone number), so we can get the ball rolling.

    Thannks,

    Matt

    — On Sun, 10/5/08, xxxx xxxx wrote:

    xxxx xxxx

    Subject: Re: 2005 MINI Cooper
    To: mattsimpson551@yahoo.com
    Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 5:19 PM

    well seeing that there are a lot of scams going around i will not buy the car unless its either in my sight at the time the payment has been sent, or you have some sort of secure payment/shipment method. Please let me know. if you are located in Michigan at this time, you can ship the car here because i am guaranteeing you that i will buy it if i see it at the time of payment.

    Thank you,

    —- Original message —-

    Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:51:17 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Matt Simpson
    Subject: Re: 2005 MINI Cooper
    xxxx xxxx

    Hey,
    I am selling this car because my unit will be sent back to Iraq.I have no use for the car anyway,due to my job.The price is low because I need to sell it before Oct 30th. The car is in great condition and runs great. I have a clean title ready to be signed. The car has no electrical or mechanical problems.It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad .The car is in Billings, MT; in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping. Let me know if you are interested, email back.
    2005 Mini Cooper S
    Mileage: 22700 miles
    Inspection: Inspected
    Vehicle Title: Clear
    Condition: Used
    Transmission: Manual
    Fuel type: Gasoline
    Engine: 4 – Cyl
    You can see more pictures at: http://photobucket.com/minione

    Matt

    xxxx xxxx

    xxxx xxxx

    Subject: 2005 MINI Cooper
    To: mattsimpson551@yahoo.com
    Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:47 PM

    Hello, i am wondering if you still have this car up for sale, if so are there any known problems with this vehicle, and any existing warrenty?

    Thank you,

    xxxx xxxx

  24. budmo said,

    I got the same thing too: from :

    Hello, I’m Sgt. David Price.
    This Audi is in perfect working condition. This vehicle engine runs very very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty. This detailed vehicle makes the exterior looks like it just came off the assembly line. The car has 31,700 miles on it..
    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through ebay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 15 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. I am located in Budapest, Hungary and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between USA and Hungary. One month ago, my wife Jannet moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the US because we can’t register it here, it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My price on it is US 6,000 $.
    If we reach an agreement, I am willing to take care of the shipping to your address. Shipping will take 10 days maximum. I have managed to obtain a low cost shipping, only $600 and I presume it would be fair to split the shipping cost so, we’ll pay $300 each. Meaning, that the car and the shipping/handling will cost you $6,300. I think this is reasonable.
    Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
    Regards

    DON’T FALL FOR THIS SCAM!

  25. edward said,

    you gotta love it:
    the divorced wife + alaska:
    Hello,
    The bike (2007 Yamaha YZF-R6) is in absolutely perfect condition, no scratches,dings, dents or other imperfections. Never accidented, Always garaged. Clear title, no leans. I will accept $3,800 if you buy it now. It has only 866 miles, 600 cc, and also 6 months of Yamaha waranty…transferable. The bike will come with the helmet, a pair of gloves and the jacket also.
    Firstly, I need to tell you that i am located in Anchorage, Alaska. I sell the bike urgently because my platoon has been sent back to Iraq and don’t want it to get old in my garage. The price is low because I need to sell it before oct 20th…I will take care of all transport arrangements.Usually shipment takes maximum 3 to 5 days depending on your location and will be fully insured against damages, shipped in a crated container…..on my cost!!
    I am a member of the eBay buyer protection program and using this service you will get a 5 days testing period after delivery. During that 5 days testing period I will not be getting any money.
    If you agree with my above terms, I’m sure that we can close the deal as soon as possible.
    I have reserved the bike for you until I will have your final answer.
    Reply soon,
    David

    PS: By the way…with who will you gonna vote at the elections?

    Hello,
    First of all I want to thank you for your interest for my bike.The bike is still available,I sell it at this price because i just finished the divorce with my husband. When the divorce has finished i own this bike. Now as a women i don’t need it. This bike is in excellent working conditions, slightly used in 100% working and looking conditions.From the beginning you have to know that for the payment I request ONLY secure pay, I prefer the payment to be done using eBay services so both of us can be protected.We will use a safe payment method because I am affiliated at eBay and I have a purchase protection account for $20.000. The final price that I want for this bike is $3,000 including shipping and handling.
    I will wait your answer(if you are interested to buy) very soon!
    Thank you

  26. Brandon said,

    Hello ,
    My name is Sgt. Michael Colins and I’m glad to see your interest in purchasing my car.
    What can I tell you in a few words is that I am an individual seller, I am not a dealer and this is my first type of auction on Craigslist.
    This Honda is in perfect working condition. This vehicle engine runs very very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty.
    This detailed vehicle makes the exterior looks like it just came off the assembly line. The car has 13,301 miles on it.

    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order
    for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car.
    ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 15 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected.

    I am located in Berlin, Germany and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between US and Germany, and have the U.S. Military mission to Supervise our Oil Platforms. One month ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the US because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My price on it is US 5,500 $.

    If we reach an agreement, I am willing to take care of the shipping to your address. Shipping will take 10 days max. I have managed to obtain a low cost shipping, only $600 and I presume it would be fair to split the shipping cost so, we’ll pay $300 each. Meaning, that the car and the shipping/handling will cost you $5,800. I think this is reasonable.

    Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.

    Regards,
    Sgt. Michael Colins

  27. Brandon said,

    IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED ON HOW THIS UNFOLDED READ FROM BOTTOM TO TOP BUT I GUESS MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT AND THANKS FOR THIS SITE I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE WENT THROUGH WITH THE DEAL. ONE MORE THING HE DIDNT GET ME ON EBAY IT WAS CRAIGS LIST.

    Sorry man no deal not into being scammed. and I don’t think very much of someone who would do that type of thing. I work hard for the money i make and I truly hope that you have to atone for your ill practices. I don’t have the mental capacity to understand how you can live with yourself doing what you do to people. Are you physically handicapped, can you not work, even if something keeps you from earning an honest living you don’t have the right to take from those who are trying. I work construction so needless to say I do not have spare income to lose. I really hope that you are made to answer for your practices soon, because You do not want stealing on your resume when you show up at the Pearly Gates and Streets of Gold or at least that is my opinion. You are really hurting people when you do this to them and I think you should really think about that for awhile, is this really the type of business you want to be in messing up peoples lives? I hope you have read all of this and your are welcome to respond with a rebuttal and truthfully I would kind of like to hear what you have to say.

    ——————————————————————————–
    Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:35:26 +0200
    From: micol33@gmail.com
    To:
    Subject: Re: The car for sale
    CC:

    Hello ,
    My name is Sgt. Michael Colins and I’m glad to see your interest in purchasing my car.
    What can I tell you in a few words is that I am an individual seller, I am not a dealer and this is my first type of auction on Craigslist.
    This Honda is in perfect working condition. This vehicle engine runs very very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty.
    This detailed vehicle makes the exterior looks like it just came off the assembly line. The car has 13,301 miles on it.

    As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order
    for you to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car.
    ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it(for 15 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected.

    I am located in Berlin, Germany and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between US and Germany, and have the U.S. Military mission to Supervise our Oil Platforms. One month ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the US because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My price on it is US 5,500 $.

    If we reach an agreement, I am willing to take care of the shipping to your address. Shipping will take 10 days max. I have managed to obtain a low cost shipping, only $600 and I presume it would be fair to split the shipping cost so, we’ll pay $300 each. Meaning, that the car and the shipping/handling will cost you $5,800. I think this is reasonable.

    Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.

    Regards,
    Sgt. Michael Colins

    On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:46 AM,

    I am e-mailing in regards to the car. I was wondering if the car has
    been damaged in any way. You are welcome to e-mail me back with answers
    or call me at XXX-XXX-XXXX. I would prefer a phone call I am very
    interested in the car. If you check this tonight Oct. 9th call me I am
    working till 3:30 tomorrow morning and you wouldn’t be bothering me at
    all.

    Brandon

  28. assasukasse said,

    Hello everyone and tanks for all your comments!
    however I recently noticed they seldom add any useful information to the thread, so from now on this thread is CLOSED.

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